Redeye Hellcat VS Demon

"Josh Welton" (watchtheprettylight)
06/28/2018 at 11:47 • Filed to: Redeye, demon, brown dog welding

There’s gonna be some mad Demon owners...

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DISCUSSION (29)

Mr. FiSTer of Team FiST Fetish > Josh Welton
06/28/2018 at 12:02

The Demon's very own GT3 Touring

bob and john > Josh Welton
06/28/2018 at 12:03

and uhh. meh? how much longer can they k eep building the same car with just more and mroe HP? that platform dates back to 2004...14 years. this is getting stupid at this point.

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > Josh Welton
06/28/2018 at 12:04

I kinda love that Dodge is fucking over speculators by building this. Just dilute the brand into oblivion and let people actually enjoy the cars, it’s actually pretty brilliant in a backwards kinda way.

Josh Welton > bob and john
06/28/2018 at 12:12

They sell the shit out of them, why not...

Josh Welton > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
06/28/2018 at 12:13

It’s not good for brand equity, in my opinion. Of course I own a demon so I might be biased. And now Scat Packs get Hellcat hood.

gettingoldercarguy > Josh Welton
06/28/2018 at 12:13

I don’t remember Ferrari limiting production of the F40. That hardly hurt i ts desirability.

Milky > bob and john
06/28/2018 at 12:15

At least they’re updating it. The Crown Vic had 200-240hp over 2 decades.

Mercedes Streeter > Josh Welton
06/28/2018 at 12:17

Does Dodge really have any actual brand equity left? The Ram is now its own brand, they killed the Viper (again), and now basically just sell really fast dinosaurs that can come with “Hell-” or “Demon” in their names.

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > bob and john
06/28/2018 at 12:18

As long as people keep buying them. I do wish they’d build a smaller lighter replacement that could go toe-to-toe with the Mustang and Camaro, but they do fill a niche. When the Hellcat was announced I thought it’d be a rare sighting, but I see them more often than V6s, so I’m sure Dodge is laughing all the way to the bank.

Hell, if they leave it alone it’ll basically become their G-wagon. Update the interior every 4 years and watch the fanboys eat them up, while the tooling paid itself off in 2010.

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > Josh Welton
06/28/2018 at 12:24

I mean, this is typical Dodge. They did this to the old SRT8 with the Superbee. T here’s never been any brand equity with the modern Mopar, and while that may be disappointing to some owners, it’s somewhat democratizing to their fan base.

I mean, who else but Dodge can take 4 engines and 5 hoods and make 82 trim levels with stickers?

bob and john > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
06/28/2018 at 12:31

I guess. but even the G-wagon had the platform updated to IFS

bob and john > Josh Welton
06/28/2018 at 12:31

true. dont fix what aint broke.

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > bob and john
06/28/2018 at 12:35

After 40 years

Tekamul > bob and john
06/28/2018 at 12:35

They'll do it until people stop buying one trick ponies.

Josh Welton > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
06/28/2018 at 12:39

They are basically taking a page out of the Mustang’s playbook.

Josh Welton > bob and john
06/28/2018 at 12:40

As an enthusiast I’d love to see a new platform, but at the same time I really enjoy this one .

My bird IS the word > Josh Welton
06/28/2018 at 13:30

The challenger has too many trim levels. There I said it. Shit can the R/T and leave the 392 variants.

Josh Welton > My bird IS the word
06/28/2018 at 14:06

I think the “392” trim is actually going away. At least I haven’t seen much about it.

Josh Welton > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
06/28/2018 at 14:07

Some People think my explanation means I don’t want to see a new platform. I’d love to see this drivetrain (or just a 6.4 with a 6spd) in a smaller Alfa platform.

Josh Welton > Mercedes Streeter
06/28/2018 at 14:09

They keep increasing sales numbers. People dig Dinos. They sell a TON of V6 cars too.

Josh Welton > gettingoldercarguy
06/28/2018 at 14:09

Haha perfect comparison ;)

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > Josh Welton
06/28/2018 at 15:08

Same, I’m not against that move at all, I’d especially love to see a Challenger T/A that could go toe-to-toe with a GT350 around a road course . But I also can’t fault Dodge for milking the cash cow with minor changes.

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > My bird IS the word
06/28/2018 at 15:12

But all those variants allow Challenger owners to say “this is only 1/478 blue 2016 Challenger R/T Pluses with the optional shaker hood, 8-speed auto, spoiler, and engine block heater”

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > Josh Welton
06/28/2018 at 15:13

Even t hen the Mustang has about 50 less trims, lol.

haveacarortwoorthree2 > Mercedes Streeter
06/28/2018 at 15:45

now basically just sell really fast dinosaurs boats

FIFY!

My bird IS the word > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
06/28/2018 at 16:06

You are correct. At the same time, I bet it confuses most customers.

My bird IS the word > Josh Welton
06/28/2018 at 16:07

Its incorporated into the scat pack. I'm mostly concerned with the engine vs the trim. I feel bad for anyone who buys a standard rt these days.

Josh Welton > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now)
06/28/2018 at 16:42

I’m thinking mid 90s to mid 00s Mustang. Bulli t, California Special, GT, Cobra, GTS. Cobra R, V6, the convertible that every cool girl in high school drove, Mach 1, 35th (mustang) anniversary edition, 100th (ford) anniversary edition, V6 Pony, Standard, Premium, Deluxe, Hertz, Shaker, so on, and so forth.

Josh Welton > My bird IS the word
06/29/2018 at 08:24

I loved my ‘15 R/T SPS. Drove a base model cross country too, it’s what made me want mine. Not sure what you’re referring to.